Whether you are male or female, if you wear a ring in your nose or multiple sets of rings on your ears or eyebrows, or a cherished silver ball on your tongue, remove them for the job interview. I’m curious why you comment on what people are not addressing but don’t reply to the valid points people do bring up? This sounds like a very convincing reason I should stop for some facial piercings on my way to the office. Ever? We hired a woman who had interviewed in a conservative blouse and skirt, and who had shoulder-length light brown hair. For some of us the prerequisites for getting a Prince Albert are… a little steep ;). I got hired even with the nose piercing. When I was job searching years ago, I was careful to hide my tattoos and dyed my hair back to a normal color. At my previous firm, we were interviewing interns. ?”, I had this situation not too long ago with my hair. Just because you might see her walking around London between 9-5 doesn’t mean she doesn’t have a job. I say all this as a woman with no facial piercings, and assuming good intent on your behalf, I wanted to offer a bit of perspective on why you’re getting so much backlash. One showed up with a visible foot tattoo. To be clear, I don’t think you have to do this — but I think it’ll be helpful in getting the relationship off on a good foot. i completely disagree with you and think that line of thinking is rather sad/pessimistic. In terms of tattoos, I’m speaking of body art that might be visible in otherwise work-appropriate apparel. I’ve found that as my piercing is fairly unobtrusive, I wait until the ‘any further questions’ portion of a face to face interview and bring it up then (I have a piercing, not able to take it out, do you have a policy against etc etc). When you’re dating, sure, you can pass on anything you don’t find personally attractive in a woman. He’s never had a problem in the tech sector, but he definitely covered them when he worked in finance. If an interviewer has a problem with my piercings, then it means it’s not the place for me. Yeah, could we up the civility level on this post? But why? Yet we yell at them for showing too much cleavage. Just the thought of it makes me think, OW. I don’t think they’re necessarily unprofessional, any more than tattoos, but it’s a matter of knowing the culture and being willing (or not) to fit in with it. ?” is a little weird…. My friend has a septum piercing that he does not wear to work or when he feels it is not appropriate. I just wanted to add in that this won’t always be about company culture or policy – but about a person’s specific experiences with people with piercings. I’ve seen way to many girls who have looked all-round professional, and that one little metal dot on their nose makes them look like an overgrown teenager. You can also find really nice glass retainers for nose piercings (I think Gorilla Glass makes them) – glass is safe to wear even in a piercing that’s not completely healed or just a little bit angry, it’s easy to insert and remove, and clear glass is much more subtle as a retainer than clear plastic is. This is kind of true…in a very conservative area, the tats and piercings would definitely stand out. I agree that those comments have value, but if you’re not willing to compromise, I think asking is a bad idea. If it’s an accountant who will never deal with customers? It does make sense though that at a Jewish camp, or with Jewish campers, they might ask you to cover up tattoos since Judaism has very clear prohibitions against body mods and tattoos could be seen as not following the values of the camp/families. I think body mods have become much more accepted now and unless your field is very conservative, I would really be surprised if anyone questioned it. As long as it was clean and he kept it out of the way. It’s available to review if applicants click on the link on our website. Some places would be absolutely fine with it and some would consider it unprofessional that you wore it to an interview. Oh yeah, I hear you. Judge the total package. On the men’s side, these are all fairly rare. I’ve had my nose pierced about five times now with a tiny stud, and, much as I love it, I keep letting it close up because my allergies just won’t allow me to keep it in. Although I did disagree with your views, I think the biggest takeaway here is perhaps to be mindful of repeating the same point over and over again when we comment. Probably depends a bit on the field, though. We were also concerned that clients would be put off by it. Attractiveness and appropriateness aren’t the same thing. What that means is either you didn’t understand (or ignored) the question, or that you conflate attractiveness with employability and professionalism – which is a big issue for women who are often judged for their looks first, and value to the workplace second. However, I don’t know as it would make sense to go out and advise folks to pierce their wouldn’tyouliketoknow in order to succeed in business. I lived with some guys with serious hippie hair and they said they were treated very differently when they cut their hair. And now it’s the next day, clear head, I still find nose rings unattractive, and I still don’t understand why that is offensive. How to Dress for an Interview at McDonald's, What to Avoid Wearing to Your Interview If You Are a Guy, What to Wear for an Informal Lunch Interview, Pew Research Center: Tattooed Gen Nexters. “NEVER have I seen someone in a professional position in any of the corporate office I’ve worked at in Manhattan with a nose ring.” How does that extrapolate to anything other than “People don’t wear nose rings to the office where I work.”? I “do pot” and quite a few other things that I will refrain from listing here. You are of course free to dislike them, and if you are in a position of authority at a workplace, you are also free to prohibit them. I do definitely get the viewpoints on those of you who just flip it up and out of the way. I’m not off topic. I have a tiny nose stud (2mm) and have always left it in, even during interviews. Just don’t wear a nose ring when in a food serving role, most people don’t want food served to them by someone with something hanging out of their nose, even if it is there intentionally. You could cover it with makeup if you still feel it’s visible but you wouldn’t have to take it out. I recently left that job and have been interviewing for new positions, but taking my piercing out before interviews – and having to put it back in afterwards – has been a really painful/uncomfortable process. I definitely think the conventional wisdom about certain body modifications making you unemployable is becoming less relevant. Several people commenting here are saying that they have facial piercings as professionals. however, i’ve just asked management to consider ‘allowing’ me to wear it at work…understanding that for customer meetings and/or office visitors i would still have to ‘flip’ it. Unfairly there are cases where people had a bad experience with people who wear nose rings and therefore think all people who where nose rings are (insert negative thing here). We actually did not care if someone had tattoos, and some of our designers did have them and kept them discreetly covered while at work. Expcept me not reading this blog anymore, even though I’ve been reading for over 4 years and enjoy it. Piercings. How does what you find attractive in a woman relate to her professionalism? I could have been more assertive right from the start. my employee told me “I prefer not to” when I tried to give him a new project, boss gives hand-me-down clothes to staff, employee wants help cutting the vaccination line, and more. I agree, as I have had people make rude comments at me on here before. Maybe Wakeen works under Jane for fifteen years, and Jane is kind of straitlaced and doesn’t like piercings. Anything in the staff’s appearance that distracts patients from their roles as care professionals could reasonably be prohibited. It’s wise to understand what’s accepted in yours and how much “mod tax” you’re willing to pay. I’m actually doing my Masters on this topic, so hopefully a quick review of all the research out there will be useful. Well, just one problem — once in a while a washcloth will try to steal it. I hope something positive comes out of this discussion! Although I do agree with you that plenty of people find them unprofessional (which is what I hope you meant.). Believe me, it’s no fun going home alone late at night in northern manhattan. A lot of healthcare facilities have policies against certain types of piercings because they don’t close over the same as pierced ears and can be an infection concern, but it depends on what type of job you have. The goal is to achieve the same level of formality, not to look the same age, or even necessarily the same fashion sense. well, joey. it’s not that they’ve ever flat-out told me NO. i’m a lady engineer that wears 5/8″ PCB ‘plugs’ in my ears. The problem wasn’t that you disagreed about piercings. Hardly anyone notices the labret in my lip; I have a coworker who just noticed it last month after working with me for two years. I really, really, really like this analogy. Lose the nose piercing for an interview? What does get me “offended” here is that I get surprised when people read all of this stuff into peoples’ comments that isn’t there. You can learn more about its significance for many Hindus here: http://www.hindu-blog.com/2008/01/why-hindu-women-wear-nose-stud.html. I have a rather large tattoo on my left upper arm and except for the end bit around the back where the skin is delicate, it barely hurt at all (two and a half hours listening to thrash metal while I got it was worse). This. The camp I ended up working at actually had primarily Jewish campers, but the camp was still fine with tattoos. If I were in charge, I’d say not on my watch. I can see food service losing customers over this. I would go more along the lines of “By the way, I had asked Jane about any company rules on piercings and she assured me there aren’t any — but I wanted to confirm with you, as I have a small nose ring that I typically wear, and I didn’t want it to be a surprise on Monday.” This way you’re not explicitly telling (agreed with above, not the right way to start of a relationship with a new boss), but you’re not making it a full question either, since you have already confirmed and it should be ok. You would negatively judge a woman wearing a nose stud, because you’ve seen other women with nose studs drink, smoke, or use pot? I’m leaving this company for a role that offers me still more professional growth and opportunity. Vulcan holds a Bachelor of Arts in English and journalism from the University of Minnesota. He will most likely say no, but what that does is make you feel like you don't have to hide it so much. But you can’t really get so outraged about people responding to the words you wrote. Maybe we can’t accurately have the young/corporate/piercing conversation since in my experience ageism exists regardless of visible modifications. You shouldn’t have to justify yourself to anyone. Nose Piercings come in Men for the most part don’t write blogs for fashion-related advice. Looking at me screams clean, but doesn’t give you any insight into my wildly unclean and illicit proclivities. My personal opinion? But do I really want to point someone to a bad neighborhood for the sake of political correctness, and pretend all areas of the city are equal? So I’m suddenly more understanding, and still suggest hiding the piercing completely, and talking about it on offer, I think I’m talking about dermal piercings (I didn’t actually read the page, it makes me squeamish), http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microdermal_implants. Hmm…I have a nose piercing and wear a small stud all the time. Ditto on it depends on the tattoo. know your office and your city. That all depends on the situation. It’s fine for you to share your opinion on whether facial piercings are professional or not here, and a lot of people might be interested to hear more input on that. Ask them how they’d feel about you wearing a septum ring out, rather than just giving them a heads up – “By the way I’m going to wear my septum ring out, ok” cause a lot of people will see that as you telling them you are, not asking them if it’s ok. And I know a lot of the older generations aren’t very keen on facial piercings so they may have their “back put out” by that rather than them agreeing that they’re ok with you doing that. There were multiple comments on my using the word “attractive.” That really comes across as nitpicking when you are on the recieving end. and we are not a particularly stuffy company. What was so offensive about me pointing out nice neighborhoods? These are quick blog discussions alot of people are doing while at work. It seems like terrible rationale that you wouldn’t let your hypothetical employees wear their body jewelry because you don’t like them. Yes I do get what you mean about citing lady gaga as mainstream, what I meant is that by someone like her having it, it puts it more in the public eye, if you know what I mean. They are loved by many since they can be very fashionable while being discreet. The owners just about died. Any club? Again – it’s not because you don’t like piercings. Before that, I was a mobile web application developer for the US Dept of Health and Human Services… with a nose ring, multiple piercings, and visible tattoos. I wouldn’t care if a guy had hippie hair. It’s because in your answer you said something really inappropriate and offensive, and I think you’re missing that. If I owned a company, you could be covered in tattoos and have huge gauges and nose rings out the wazoo and I wouldn’t give a crap, as long as you did your work. Personally if you’re dressed well and they aren’t distracting I could care less. That said, I wouldn’t display any body art to an interview unless it was to a creative-based industry job, and even then, it’s touch-and-go. 27-year-old senior software engineer making six figures, checking in. I never asked about policies – just never thought about it. In a less formal discussion like this, though, there are going to be sentences people don’t do much with, mostly because other points are more important and take up more mental space. the best time of day to apply for jobs, working for an unethical industry, and more, when asked about salary, I say “I’ll start for $X and earn the rest through merit”. And some professionals have 9-5 jobs with lax dress codes and they go for walks on their lunch or day off. Sorry you can’t see that. Calla, that’s an excellent point you make about finding the right fit. Heh, every time I read one of these sort of Updates From My Pants (and it’s, er, kind of a trope, let us say) I end up idly wondering if the local tattoo parlor has slots for emergency appointments. “…until I realized I couldn’t get the type of job I wanted because of it.” does a nose piercing look unprofessional? I used to have this exact view when I had long hair with shaved sides and a few piercings…….until I realized I couldn’t get the type of job I wanted because of it. The labret could be left without jewelry for days, while the bridge starts tightening after 18 hours or so. So for the sake on political correctness, some other posters were guiding this new NYer to live in neigborhoods that were really not nice (said as someone who lives in an area that still gets scoffed at). Nose piercings and other facial piercings have become increasingly popular (and accepted) in recent years, so younger people are more likely to have them. The same with “woman” vs. “girl.” Did the 15th person really need to chime in and say they were offended? They asked multiple times if it was going to be a problem and asked me to poll other employees about it before the hiring. Once on the job, you can get a better feel for the environment and whether the piercing will be okay to show or not. I would assume there would sometimes be requirements if working in certain environments. That's a concession. Of course, ethically it’s not the same – people can choose to have piercing or tattoos. After I’ve finished work and I’m on the way home I simply swing it back out so it’s visable again and more comfortable. Then, when I had my law school job, I came in with it the second time, as the receptionist at an accounting firm, and the only thing any of the partners said was, “That looks great with your fauxhawk.” They thought it made their firm look edgy to have a young twenty-something with a red fauxhawk and a nose piercing at the front desk. Some dogs and horses wear coats so proper humans should eschew those as well. I assume the person is NOT entry level salary and willing to live with roommates. Though I believe his argument to be flawed even without this, it’s hard not to chime in that the facts he used as underlying support are not accurate. can my job make me travel during the pandemic? I can see requiring people to be neat and clean, but the community presumably has people with piercings and tattoos in it too and it seems to me a work force that better reflects the variety in the community would be appealing. It’s not super-conservative, but you can do it pretty reasonably with Mary Jane type shoes. I didn’t wear my jewelry to the interview, but I did ask the HR rep who offered me the role if they had any specific rules or regulations on tattoos or piercings. How we present to the world tells the world something about ourselves and we need to accept the judgement that comes with that. I really hope you are not in charge of anything ever, then. Discussions should be give and take. I personally don’t like them. (But it did sound that way because of the word choice, which is okay for you to own. It’s really not that deep. Meh, assuming they’re actually less formal, and not just a generational thing. But when they just stick there… D: (that’s the actual face I make) Where’s the rest of it? Same here, I’m feeling a little bad about the pile-up on Steve precisely because the term “doing pot” is conjuring up images of various older relatives. My office now is business casual (more on the jeans-every-day end of casual) but generally pretty conservative. It works the other way, too. The interview is a two-way street, after all. Sure, but until facial piercings become a protected class, it’s a call I get to make. It’s a wonderful statement about youth in the corporate setting too. And blue/green hair. Not actually common, but in some time (a few years? And as you say, necklaces had to be under clothes. i work with customers/distis/etc in person probably 20% of my job. Since then, I haven’t worried about whether or not my piercings are visible in a job interview. When she was growing up, it was apparently considered edgier, but by that time the standards had changed enough in my region that my mom, who is fairly conservative when it comes to fashion choices, thought multiple ear piercings looked cool and wanted them! Thank you. “I’ve seen way to many girls who have looked all-round professional, and that one little metal dot on their nose makes them look like an overgrown teenager. I have a nose ring, multiple ear piercings, and visible tattoos. Photo of woman with tattoos in interview courtesy of Luis Alvarez/Getty Images. Some men prefer blonds, some white ladies only date black men – who cares. I’ve had mine for 3 or 4 years now, with no problems. Ever? I am totally drawing a blank. In my opinion, your nose shouldnt matter at all. Another way to gauge the appropriateness of your nose ring during the interview is to do some research about the people with whom you'll be interviewing. I can’t imagine that piercings on the face would be different. i haven’t taken my earrings out for a work-related meeting since my NCG interview for this job. Oh, because I left off some not so nice ones. See, the question was – do piercings make one less employable or seem less professional. The other person also argued I was being elitist by saying you can’t get an apartment under $1400 here. The first ten minutes or so it feels like you’ve got a solid bogie up there, but you forget about it until you go to blow your nose. This is a piece I essentially wear around-the-clock, like a ring or small, basic stud earrings. USA Today College: Great Career Success Debate: Body Piercings & Tattoos: Yes or No? I just wanted to say that. I have been in the legal field for 7 years, with visible tattoos. Some hiring managers might use that little detail as a reason to discount you and overlook your other skills, qualifications and training. Personally, I don’t care what other people wear. But I have to go there by bus. It doesn’t make it a significant viewpoint. It is a type of piercing that may or may not involve cartilage or skin on any part of the nose. Maybe not right in every job, but it’s just one thing. (and it doesn’t seem to be an issue — my role is definitely outward-facing; I speak at public events on behalf of my company and have had my picture featured in vendor profiles). My conundrum is, I have a very delicate septum piercing. Then why not just say that? Maybe another 10 or 20 years lol. And currently green hair. I agree with the above comment as a hiring manager. One of the best pieces of advice that I heard from a colleague (in the library world) is to make sure that any facial piercings and possibly visible tattoos are visible at your interview. Now it seems to be something of a matter of honor to get me into some item of clothing, any item of clothing, from that company so as to prove some point that I’m not entirely clear on. If it was a customer facing role in a company where customers would take issue with it, then it’s an issue. Sorry, but OW. Stoned? The person would have easily had the job as they were very qualified for it, but the self imposed drama over something that doesn’t matter cost them. On the other hand, you will also be seen as more creative, and more open to new experiences. But also, I’m not actually the same person as I was back then so comparing the two is dangerous. To me this:”it sounds like that’s okay, but I wanted to mention it in advance” is a question. I’d have blistered scarring all over if my jewellery had nickel in it. (I speak as a woman without pierced ears, so I’m just sitting the whole thing out.) #1 There are religious reasons for having a nose piercing? For work, I wear a small, clear, flat-topped piercing retainer. I’ve gotten to the point where I’m not really interested in getting a tattoo (I don’t have one) to express my “individuality” because it seems everyone has one. The decision to not continue with the hire would be based solely on the fact that you are bothering me over something not at all work related. I totally get the sentiment behind it, but my nosering is hardly the most unusual thing about me that I’m open about at work, so if a nearly invisible nose stud takes me out of the running, they probably also won’t like knowing I have a genderqueer spouse either (and that’s something it’s taken a lot of work to be able to be open about, and I plan to continue being open about it, career problems be damned). I have a small gold nostril ring, and at first I wasn't worried about it for the interview because I'd have a mask on the whole time. And now there’s this “twerking” that all the kids are doing–that’s something to do with drugs, right? (Just like you might be expected to wear a suit to a job interview, even if you wouldn’t be wearing a suit every day at work there.). Very festive! ”. Depends on the company’s rules and culture. And the nose one would bug the hell out of me. My career has done quite well :-) And like you, I often forget about my tattoos and am rarely asked about them. I guess I just wasn’t thinking about black hose, since I’ve never seen anyone wear those to an interview (to the office yes but not an interview). If you have a small piercing, and the rest of you is professional, I wouldn’t worry about it.
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